Do you ever see yourself going back to work at a university?
Probably not in the same capacity, though we love to do lifestyle presentations at colleges and universities, as well as RV shows throughout the country. We enjoyed it for many years, we learned a ton, we have both great memories and not so great memories, and we thank that experience for leading us to many other wonderful life adventures. For now, we enjoy working for ourselves as well as seasonally in different parts of the country (such as the National Park Service and other places we can use our Environmental Education skills), and keep traveling!
Do you ever see yourself living in a house with a yard?
We don’t know. It certainly won’t be a traditional house, but will have space for a large veggie garden. It will probably be a tiny house with wheels and be smaller than 200 sq feet. Most houses seem way too big and there is too much to clean, maintain, and mow. Currently, we have the biggest front and back yard of anyone we know, and we don’t have to mow it. We have found better ways to spend our time...like hiking, paddling, cycling and volunteering.
Do you have children?
Not that we have to pay for, but we have hundreds of former university students that we call our kids and have visited them all over the nation. We also have nieces, nephews, and a god-child ranging from toddlers to 30-somethings. It’s been fantastic to have the time to visit and adventure with them!
How often do you see your family and friends?
We have family and friends spread all over the nation and world. We have actually had more time to spend with them now than in our previous life. In the past, we had short visits that we squeezed in between 60 hour work weeks. Now, we get to spend quality time with friends and family for a few weeks at a time...and we come with our own guest room and kitchen, so no need to make accommodations for us.
Have you ever run into any scary people?
Well, Shari was born and raised near Los Angeles, CA, Hutch lived in Boulder, CO and we have traveled all over the world, so we’ve met our fair share of unusual people. Nearly everyone has been unbelievably friendly; our unique camper draws people to us and we end up having some amazing conversations with strangers. We have had one stolen bike involving a barefoot chase across a parking lot. The thief got away, but we got the bike back the very next day! Here's how we stay safe on the road.
How do you deal with your mail/bills?
98% of what we get and need to deal with is online. The other 2%, Shari’s mom lovingly scans/mails to us. Online/mobile banking makes all of this possible, and we can deposit checks anywhere we have wifi or LTE.
If you have the funds, you can also hire a service to do this for you.
How do you deal with your taxes?
Just like everyone else. We complain about doing them, procrastinate, then get them in by April. When you work in different states and have to claim income from them, it’s a bit trickier, but not so tricky that we would give up this lifestyle. Everything you need is online via the IRS and state websites.
How do you get health insurance?
We have a great plan with BCBSNC and are huge fans of the Affordable Healthcare Act. Since we've lived this mobile, more active, lifestyle, we've needed very little healthcare as we are living healthier and with much less stress.
Did you win the lottery? If not, how do you make money?
No, we've never even bought a lottery ticket, but we feel like we have! We saved quite a bit of money before we left our jobs in 2012. We didn’t just wake up one day and hit the road; we planned for this new lifestyle. We work for ourselves via writing, photography, video production, public speaking, and ambassador/influencer work, and occasionally find seasonal work in various beautiful places across the country.
What's your monthly budget?
That depends on what we are doing. If we spend time volunteering on farms or at national parks, we don’t spend much at all. Lodging and/or most of our food is taken care of, we don’t spend much on gas, so it’s just the normal daily/monthly stuff like insurance, retirement contributions, etc.. This is a great way to stretch your budget. When we are on the road, we seek out as much free camping as possible and prepare our own meals. About $1000 a month per person will cover it if you are really on the move and staying in multiple campgrounds where you have to pay for a spot. If you are staying put and have a free camping spot, you can easily live on half that amount. Here are some budgeting tips for full-time campers.
How do you save for retirement?
We each have IRA's and investments that we began when we were working full-time and still contribute to regularly. We have retirement savings from our previous jobs, and we will have Social Security. And if we don't have those things when we decide to settle down, we will have bigger problems as a country than where to find a shower.
“Change is hard because people often overestimate the value of what they have and underestimate the value of what they may gain by giving that up.”
James Belasco & Ralph Stayer,
Flight of the Buffalo
Where do you camp?
We are "cross over" campers. While we live full-time in our lil' Hamlet, we are not RV park people. We prefer remote camping and boondocking, and also spend a good deal of time backcountry/primitive camping. We love to backpack, bikepack, and sea kayak camp all over the nation. While we use a number of apps while on the road, our all-time favorite is The Dyrt PRO because it's the most comprehensive and easy to use camping app out there, complete with offline maps and trip planners. We do detailed reviews of campsites all over the nation. You'll find us on public lands -- from the desert, to the mountains, to islands -- and sometimes in cities (but that is relatively rare unless we are visiting friends or family). Join us for a FREE 90-Day Trial and $4 off the annual fee at The Dyrt PRO! We know you'll love it as much as we do!
How did you downsize your life from a
3 bedroom 2.5 bath house to 72 sq ft?
Just like most things in life, it was a process that we revisited many times. After several rounds of garage sales, donations, selling things on Craigslist, etc., we are down to a very small amount of stuff that we’ve stored in a friend’s basement.
What do you eat?
Food…good healthy whole, often organic and local, food. We have a 2 burner propane stove, a small grill, and we almost always have a campfire pit in which we can use our Banks Fry Bake pan or Dutch oven. We have winnowed down our kitchen supplies to a few things that have multiple uses (e.g., a metal colander that can steam veggies, drain pasta, and be used as a grill basket). With these items, we can make everything from homemade soup and pizzas to brownies and coffeecake, and just about everything in between.